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"Among Henry's books in his estate were the family Bible, BURKET ON THE NEW TESTAMENT and COLES PRACTICAL DISCOURSE wer e specifically mentioned in the bill, but he also had THE JOURNAL OF THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE FOR THE TRYAL OF KING CH ARLES I, PRINTEDIN 1684. This book, which Judith inherited, contains a clue to the Lloyds' past in Wales. Stamped o n the book is a bookplate with the coat of arms of John Lloyd, who may have been a brother in Wales of Henry's father. " (Ancestry. com file by Ginny Core.File #143983 Unless noted otherwise all information for the Lloyd family was take n from this file.} The following is from Africa's History of Huntingdon and Blair Counties p.379 in the Huntingdon County section: "Henry Lloyd and his wife Judith came from Virginia in this period(pioneers before the Revolution), bringing a number o f slaves with them, and settled in the upper part of Woodcock Valley (I believe around McConnellstown in Walker Twp). T he white membersof the Lloyd family several times forted at Standing Stone, leaving the negroes on the farm, as the sav ages did not mainifest a disposition to molest them. In the winter there was seldom any occasion for alarm, as no India ns were then about. Of the children of Henry Lloyd, who accompanied him from Virginia, there were sons named Henry, Dav id, Thomas and a daughter Judith, who became the wife of Alexander McConnell." "Each of the Lloyd sons heired a farm i n this locality." Notes for Henry Lloyd by Eileen C Lloyd, (ECLloyd@aol.com), and used with her permission. " One of the books that I have is "Lloyds, Notes and Facts" by Reah McGaffey who has done a great of research of this l ine. Her first chapter "Lloyds of Virginia" states: "Thus far, not too much is known of the early Lloyd family in Virgi nia, altho several of us have searched diligently for proof of clues found there. The earliest member of which we can b e sure, was a DAVID LOYD of Frederick County, Virginia, where a warrant for about 400 acres of land was obtained from L ord Fairfax April 4, 1750 in David's name and it stated that he was living on the land at the time. In October of the s ame year, this land was patented to his son HENRY LOYD. That year the following document was recorded in Winchester, VA . 'Know all men by these present, that I , David Loyd of Frederick County in the Colony of Virginia do for and in conside ration of sixty pounds current money in hand secured to my full satisfaction by my son Henry Loyd and Peter Burr, thei r heirs and assigns Ex'r or Admr's all my estate as Goods, Chattels, Bills, Bonds, Book debts all and every that I hav e in my possession or that may be recovered by law......(etc) On the 12th of May 1750 this was recorded.' Mr. Stuart Lloyd of Summit, NJ, has done extensive research in Virginia hoping to find DAVID's origin in this country , but so far, is not sure. Following is a resume of this theory. He thinks that perhaps David was a half-brother of a J OHN LLOYD of Richmond Co., VA. John's father WILLIAM, had died intestate in 1692, and John was appointed administrator . This document mentions a son THOMAS, but no other heirs. In 1693 John's wife ELIZABETH CARTER, died, too, and John wa s apparently prevented from going back to the old country immediately. It seems like more than coincidence that David departed for England at this particular time. THOMAS also went, but Joh n did not go until 1694, probably because of his wife's death. It appears that William had property in the old countr y and his heirs wentto settle his estate. John stayed in England, leaving his Virginia property in his brother's Thomas 's hands. It is felt that perhaps David went in 1693 in John's place, or went to see about his own part of the estate . If the same David who signed his possessions to his son HENRY was the above mentioned David, then where he went or wh en he came back to this country has been lost in the mists of time. The reason that Mr. Stuart Lloyd associated David with theabove mentioned family was that in our own family in one bran ch, an old bookplate was handed down. This was of a Coat of Arms and Crest with the name "JOHN LLOYD" written beneath i t. Mrs. EA TALLEYof Charlottesville, VA, sent a photocopy of this bookplate and wrote that her sister sold the books fr om the family library in Indiana, PA, when her husband died, and that there were several with the stamp of the bookplat e in them. Their family traditionis that John Lloyd was an ancester....Mr. Stuart Lloyd sent a copy of it to London an d received word that there is a record of it there. " Further on in the book it states that the bookplate could be of t he Rossindale-Lloyd family of County Glouchester." "According to my "Lloyd Notes and Facts" by Reah McGaffey (p 6, she talks about a land grant surveyed in 1750 for Henr y Lloyd and mentions that it was next to James Lloyd's property. Then she says: "The JAMES LOYD grant was made April 4, 1752, and Henry Loyd was a chain carrier for GUY BROADWATER when it was surveye d. JAMES and RUTH, his wife, had been living on this farm when HENRY got his grant. We do not have evidence that Jame s and Ruth were related to David or Henry, but it should not be ruled out. The American Compendium of Genealogy says th at HENRY came to this country with two brothers, but does not name them. Mr. Gaspard E. Lloyd of Citra, Florida, wrot e in 1974 that James and Ruth went toBotetourt Co., in 1771, where they bought 57 acres. Mr. G. E. Lloyd is a descendan t of theirs." Source: Deed Book I, p. 384, Fincastle, VA. p.10: "James was the son of JOHN LOYD (Lloyd) who lived in what is now Orange Co., VA and so far as we know was not rel ated to Henry, Sr." p 24. "At the same time (1774) a family headed by JAMES LOYD whose land adjoined that of HENRY, Sr in Frederick Co., we nt also to Botetourt Co., tho they did not necessarily go together." So, the answer to your question is maybe they are related." From Find-a-Grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=64367933 Henry Lloyd was said to have been born in 1709 in Wales, but this has not been confirmed. By 1744, he had immigrated t o America with two brothers, David and John, and their father David, and settled in Frederick County, Virginia, where t he elder David died in 1760. Henry Lloyd married Judith Pemberton, daughter of George Pemberton II & Elizabeth Brooks. Henry & Judith had 10 childre n: Ann, Mary, David, Elizabeth, Margaret, Judith, Henry Jr, Martha, John, & Thomas. In 1773, the Lloyds migrated to Bedford County, Pennsylvania, settling in the northern part of Woodcock Valley, in wha t later became Walker Township, Huntingdon County. Henry's house there was described in 1798 as a log house of two stor ies, with eight windows containing 72 lights (panes). (Taxes then were assessed, in part, on the number of window pane s in your house.) The Lloyd house measured 18 by 23 feet; and there were two out buildings: a 16x18-foot kitchen an d a 16x40-foot barn. The Lloyds were among the earliest settlers in that region. They brought their slaves with them from Virginia. In May 1 774, Henry was appointed a Justice of the Peace in what was then Bedford County, Pennsylvania. The Lloyds were Baptists . Henry Lloyd died in 1802; his wife Judith died about 1814. They were buried on their own farm, which is no longer in th e family. Geographically, the location is along Hartslog Valley Road, Huntingdon, PA. For many years, a large lilac bus h bloomed each spring at the head of each grave. Descendant Richard W. Watson Jr. provided the photo here of the graves ite. Their slaves were buried in a separate burial ground on the Lloyd farm. The 1802 inventory of Henry Lloyd's estate name s nine slaves and their value: One Negroe Man Named Jacob, value: 45 pounds One Negroe Woman Named Phillis, 6 pence One Negroe Man Named James & Leah his wife, 7 pounds, 10 shillings One Negroe Man Named Cupid to serve to 26 years, 95 pounds One Negroe Girl Named Sheley - Do (ditto), 30 pounds One Negroe Boy Named Championate - Do, 45 pounds One Negroe Boy Named Bob, - Do, 45 pounds One Negroe Girl Named Agness - Do, 30 pounds An updated Lloyd genealogy has been published by James B. Lloyd & Richard W. Watson Jr. It lists over 18,000 descendant s of Henry & Judith Pemberton Lloyd. For details, go to Lulu.com and click on the Buy link. Then do a search for "Lloy d Notes and Facts."