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In her book, "Lloyd Notes and Facts", Reah Lloyd McGaffey makes this statement: "JUDITH was not HENRY'S first wife, for if we have the right Judith Pemberton, she was JUDITH BROOKS, daughter of MATTH EW and ELIZABETH (Warren) BROOKS of "Opekon". Elizabeth's will is dated Dec. 12, 1759 and it named a daughter, JUDIT H PEMBERSON (sic).The chief evidence for thinking this is the Judith who married HENRY LLOYD Sr. is that her granddaugh ter was named CATHERINE BROOKS MCCONNELL. " It is our contention that Mrs. McGaffey did not have the right Judeth Pemberton. It is apparent from a careful of readi ng of her account that she was unaware of who the Pemberton's of Frederick Co. were: ". If the name BROOKS came through the Lloyd family it had to be an early Brooks girl (the cousin of Sally?) who marrie d a Pemberton and had a daughter Judith, or through Judith Brooks who married a Pemberton before she married Henry." The last assumption that Judith Brooks married a Pemberton before she married Henry is what gives Mrs. McGaffey problem s because if true then she must reach the inevitable conclusion that Henry married twice since: "No marriage record has been found for Judith and Henry but several researchers think that Judith was a second wife. He nry had a daughter born in 1759 when he was 50 years old, and Judith had a son born in 1771 when it seems that a firs t wife would have been too old. Judith Pemberton Lloyd. daughter of Judith and Henry was born 1763 so it appears that b etween 1759 and 1763 Henry must have married Judith." There is no birth record that I have seen which would prove 1709 as Henry's date of birth, we have no clear record of J udith Brooks or Judeth Pemberton either. We do know that Isaiah son of George Pemberton, Sr. married Elizabeth Hall o f Halltown, W.V. before (hopefully) 3 Dec 1753 when according to Hinshaw's Quaker Encyclopedia, their first child was b orn. They had their last child on 3 Sep 1775. A span which could also apply to Henry and Judith Lloyd. Concerning Henry 's ancestry I believe Eileen C. Lloyd <ECLloyd@aol.com> has the best summary: "Two of our line of relatives have been researching the relationship of David to William Lloyd and have not been succes sful in proving that fact. In fact, one of them has gone as far as getting a researcher in England and thus far has no t found anything.One of the books that I have is "Lloyds, Notes and Facts" by Reah McGaffey who has done a great of res earch of this line. Her first chapter "Lloyds of Virginia" states: "Thus far, not too much is known of the early Lloy d family in Virginia, altho severalof us have searched diligently for proof of clues found there. The earliest member o f which we can be sure, was a DAVID LOYD of Frederick County, Virginia, where a warrant for about 400 acres of land wa s obtained from Lord Fairfax April 4, 1750 in David'sname and it stated that he was living on the land at the time. I n October of the same year, this land was patented to his son HENRY LOYD." Regardless of Henry's age, (my great grandfather Daniel Buckley fathered a child when he was 62), the fact that he fath ered a child in 1759 lends credence to our contention that he married Judi Pemberton daughter of George Pemberton, Sr . In fact there isno reason to believe that Judi was not the mother of all of Henry's children. Summing up: 1. The fact that Judith Pemberton Lloyd named one her children Catherine Brooks McConnell is insufficient reason to bel ieve that Henry Loyd married Judith Brooks. 2. If Henry's wife had a maiden name of Brooks then why didn't they name their 9th child Judith Brooks Lloyd? Surely th at would have been preferable to a dead husband's name. 3. Who could the mysterious first husband be? As far as we know there was only one Pemberton family living in what beca me Jefferson Co., WV during the time frame in question and in those days there weren't many people living in the whol e area. We must conclude that Mrs. McGaffey was incorrect in her assumptions and we believe if she had seen the property record s and the will of George Pemberton, Sr. she would have reached the same conclusions that we have. Fact: George Pemberton had a daughter named Judi named in his will dated 1756: "Will Of George Pemberton (Copy Posted at: http://www.gbso.net/BUC/WILL%20GEO%20PEM.htm). Transcribed by E.L. Pemberto n and G.D. Buckley, Jr. from a photo copy. "Item I give unto my second eldest daughter Judi one fifth part of all my m oveables." Fact: Henry and Judith named their 9th child Judith Pemberton Lloyd. Conclusion: Henry married Judith Pemberton, who most likely was the mother of all of his children. Fact: George Pemberton, Jr. was a son of George Pemberton, Sr. "Will Of George Pemberton (Copy Posted at: http://www.gbso.net/BUC/WILL%20GEO%20PEM.htm). Transcribed by E.L. Pemberto n and G.D. Buckley, Jr. from a photo copy. " I give and bequeath unto my son George Pemberton his heirs and assigns all my messuage or tenement whereon I now live i n the County aforesaid containing as by survey made four hundred and twenty two acres as appears by my Deed issued in m y name for said land to him and his heirs and assigns forever, together with a Negro girl called Jean about thirty year s of age to him and his. Assigns forever also a fifth part of all my moveables." Fact: Matthew Brooks and Elizabeth Warren Brooks had a daughter who was married to a Pemberton in 1759. 1. From the Book Brooks and Kindred Families by Ida Brooks Kellam : "Elizabeth Warren, Widow of Matthew, dated her will 12 -12- 1759 and it was admitted to probate 2-6-1760 in Frederick C ounty Virgina book 2 page 368. Elizabeth Brooks is said to be the Daughter of Thomas Warren who made his will in Spotts ylvania County Virgina., 4-13-1749 and probated 12-4 1750 book B. p. 56. He named his Daughter, Elizabeth Brooks." 2. From the Book: LLOYD NOTES AND FACTS, Compiled by: Reah Lloyd McGaffey: "Elizabeth's will is dated Dec. 12, 1759 and it named a daughter, JUDITH PEMBERSON (sic)." Fact: George Pemberton, Jr. had a wife named Judith: E.L. Pemberton, EMail dated May 16, 2001: "The information I have on the the lands of George and Isaiah are copies of the Deeds whereby both men with their wive s Elizabeth (Isaiah) and Judith (George) and both to Samuel Washington of 542 acres for Isaiah and 473 acres for Geor ge on 1/27 and 1/28/1771 (for Isaiah) for 5 shillings and 435 pounds and 2/1 and 2/2/1771 for George for 5 shilling s and 300 pounds. Both Deeds indicate the land joined Robert Worthington's land patent 10-2-1735 and being tract gra nted to Isaiah and George separatelyby a Deed from Lord Fairfaxe dated 10-16-1750 (for Isaiah) and 10-15-1750 (for Ge orge). My records show that Isaiah was married in 1752 and George ABT 1755. Which means both men were single in 1750. " Conclusion: George Pemberton, Jr. married Judith Brooks. The information given in The Pemberton Family Scrapbook by Jesse B. Pemberton supports my position that Judeth Brooks m arried Geo (III,Jr.) and gives some credence to Mrs. Mahaffey's contention: "If the name BROOKS came through the Lloy d family it had tobe an early Brooks girl (the cousin of Sally?) who married a Pemberton and had a daughter Judith,.... ....". In the Pemberton Family Scrapbook Judith Pemberton's mother is listed as Elizabeth Brooks and this would certainly acco unt for her grand daughter naming one of her children Catherine Brooks McConnell. [Pemberton Family Scrapbook (Courtesy of Dixie Ann Pemberton)]